Goal: Democracy

Democracy in an Equal Money System will Practically engage Every Citizen of the World to Vote on Every Aspect that will influence Day to Day Living, and No Politician will have Any Power to Make Decisions. Politicians will only Function as Administrators Effecting the Will of the People.

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Comment: "Power, prestige, and money were moré less for equal human behivor"
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Comment: "HI"
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Comment: "agreed however, we all must be consistently aware of "respecting ourselves and all life" including politicians. we must believe in one another without judging hate crimes or any discriminations. we are all in this together as one. we must be willing to accept this and trust. this will help bring humanity's balance back."
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Comment: "Doesnt seem to be working. Maybe the Hippies were right?"

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When looking at the definition of Democracy within the Equal Money System - one will see it is not yet being applied anywhere as of yet. So - we cannot yet make statements of 'it doesn't seem to be working' - we haven't applied or lived it yet.

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Comment: "Democracy is a lie, it's a dictatorship of majorities, 49 persons that are right against 51 persons that are wrong."

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Comment: "Im all for a real democracy, in the sense that every decision is up for debate. But in a practical way, this would have to be on a local, smal scale, so that the differences and local cultures would be concidered and honored.. A world where evrything is equal isnt nessicerily a good thing, if everyhing ended up beeing the same, and mono culture where all there where left.. equality is about our right to live a free life, not the same life.."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Many decisions will be taken on local levels, yet they must be made in alignment to the principles and policies that were agreed upon on larger levels.

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Comment: "THIS ONE I TOTALLY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH. STOP THE HEIRARCHRY SYSTEM IN IT'S TRACKS. MAKES US ALL ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE."
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Comment: "YEs! Direct democracy to all the world!"
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Comment: "Que los políticos no son los que tomen decisiones sobre proyectos de desarrollo que garantice los derechos del pueblo. las decisiones los tomara el pueblo mediante decisión directa. "
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Comment: "much carefull with this aspecto of politicians, my point of view is that their salary and power is a complicated isue by itself and the only way to aproch it is taking away the acces to money and power the politician is trap on his real job "
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Comment: "La democracia en la actualidad no existe , en el sistema igualitario monetario debe cumplir los objetivos propuestos en la realidad para el bien de toda la humanidad."
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Comment: "this is a good system to a point it would work perfectly on a local provincial and federal standpoint but on a global issue i think people will need many more restrictions on certain topics Ex: if the collective populace of china votes on an issue with 1B people should their vote be worth more than canada's due to more people? that doesnt seem fair "

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Within an Equal Money System, voting will not be used to assess how many people agree on a topic and how many don't - and the amount of votes in support of a policy is also not the determining factor for the implementation of the policy. Within an Equal Money System, voting is a platform to cross-reference whether the proposed policies are indeed aligned to the principle of What is Best for All or not. If one votes for the policy, one agrees that the policy complies to the Constitutional Principle of What is Best for all. If one votes no, proof requires to be submitted to show how the policy is not in the Best interest of All, so that it may be amended. Therefore, the majority problem as we experience it today within our democratic regimes, will simply not occur - because the measure is not how many votes a policy receives, but whether or not it is seen that the policy upholds the Principles of the Constitution. For more perspective on policy making in an Equal Money System, please read the Politics Page of the EMS Wiki.

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Comment: "What would keep these politicians from bending the truth to help control the outcome, politicians manipulate the truth all the time now and nothing can be done about it bc because they're actually telling the truth but putting emphasis on certain goals that either make their cause seem better or their opponents cause seem worse. Also how would a global democracy work when the people living in America are so vastly different from the people living in Africa and the people living in Africa are vastly different from the people living in the Middle East, they each have different world views, religions, morals, and different goals for the future. How would it be possible to give and take from these different regions without some regions getting hurt?"

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

In terms of the role of politicians within an Equal Money System - it will be rather limited and will not compare to the function of politicians today. For more perspective on this point in terms of how manipulation by politicians will be prevented - please read up on the Politics Page of the EMS Wiki.

For democracy to function effectively on a global level, we - humanity as a whole - will require to agree on fundamental and universal principles. These values will be embedded in the Constitution and provide the basic framework as the Rule of Law within which democracy will operate. Within this, there will be administrations on regional levels to account for differences on regional levels. Of course - before we can implement such a global system, we'll require to first go through a process of extensive re-education to allow everyone to come to an agreement on which principles require to be upheld for humanity to live in harmony with each other as well as with nature and the animal kingdom.

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Comment: "People should be well inform on what they vote for and not be ignorant to blind consecuenses or vote under the influense of others."
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Comment: "Mas a realidade é outra, os cidadãos tornaram-se simplesmente um fantoche para o político que simplesmente os ignora, que deixando de cumprir sua função que é a de tornar a vida do cidadão melhor, passaram a usar seus cargos e gabinete como se fosse sua empresa. Negociando Seus cargos e salários e até aprovação de leis direcionadas, sem afastar toda hipóteses de trama e negociata a quatro paredes"

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

O abuso de poder que existe no actual sistema socio-económico e que acabou de referir não existirá no Sistema de Igualdade Monetária. Todos os cidadão serão finalmente aqueles que irão tomar as decisões sobre todos os assuntos que influênciam toda a sociedade. Os políticos, que por sua vez estão limitados a um só mandato, terão um papel administrativo, exercendo as decisões dos cidadãos.

Desta forma garantimos que aquele que exerce um cargo político estará incapacitado de levar a cabo "negociatas" que só a ele e aos seus o beneficiam.

Aqueles que decidem exercer o cargo de politico terão de o fazer tendo em conta que não receberão qualquer tipo de "tratamento especial" nem qualquer tipo de remuneração. Isto fará com que o a decisão de fazer parte do sistema político no Sistema de Igualdade Monetária seja motivada pela paixão, interesse, cuidado e consideração por aquilo que é melhor para todos - em vez de ser motivada pelo lucro/remuneração, pelo interesse pessoal e pelos beneficíos como acontece no actual sistema.

Para mais informações, sugerimos que leia a secção de Política da Wiki (http://equaLmoney.org/wiki/Politics). Esta irá estar disponível em Português brevemente.

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Comment: "your suggesting mob rule - never works well"

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Please read the Politics section of the Wiki to gain perspective how democracy will practically operate in an Equal Money System - where people's opinions will require to be backed up by facts proving that what they are presenting as a solution is actually in the best interest of all.

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Comment: "Also, politicians that do not perform well or found guilty of corruption will be replace in no delays."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Yes, they will be removed from office to address their behaviour. In a world of equality where each being is supported to the utmost, any form of abuse indicates that the person has some form of mental disorder.
The fact that a person goes into a mental disorder does not make them completely dysfunctional, and thus does not completely exclude them from participation. They are addressed, corrected and then receive a chance of forgiveness to correct their point. One will thus not be ‘branded’ as mental disordered – because it is simply part of the human condition at this stage. Currently, not enough is yet understood about how this all functions, and therefore, there is going to be some difficulties, where we require to address the mental disorders that reveal in time.

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Comment: "Officials need the ability to make decisions regularly and any system would need such ability. There needs to be open transparency throughout the government at all time with counter system of check and balance which actually works for all. All independent decisions made by office should be public and the ability to overturn by vote should be running at all times with a brake system which could be enacted immediately after it's made. "

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

We agree with your comment - please read up on the Politics section of the EMS Wiki as well as this blogpost for further perspective on how the political decision-making will take place.

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Comment: "I don't like the herd, they trample people"

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Please read our updated Wiki section on 'Politics' as this will give perspective to your comment in relation to the problem within democracy of the rule of the majority.

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Comment: "Cooperation over competition."
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Comment: "See liquid democracy as a method to create this near-to-direct democracy."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Liquid democracy the way it’s been defined thus far, especially throughout recent history (the Paris Commune, the Pirate parties in Europe), is definitely a step towards democracy. In an equal money system we’ll be taking the point of actual democracy and of equal, fair and transparent decision-making to its maximum, as the goal is that all citizens of the earth have equal rights, equal access, equal power, equal participation.

The term ‘liquid’ implies a flow and a transparency of procedures – which is an important point within the forming and establishing of actual democracy. In an equal money system not only democracy, but also the flow of information, of resources, of goods, services, communications: will be ‘liquid’, so as to ensure absolute transparency and equal access and participation for ALL at all times. This will also ensure an up-to-date communication/flow of knowledge and information, thus enabling the practice of actual politics (=managing our world together in a way that is best for all), which in turn will enable actual education, actual science, and actual progress as humanity.

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Comment: "Would prefer a somewhat more technocratic (in the democratic sense) approach since one of the problems today is that people have views on everything regardless of their depth of study"

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Please read our updated Wiki section on 'Politics' as this will give perspective to your comment. Input within decision-making must always be backed up by facts and scientific research - therefore, one cannot merely denounce a policy because one has a personal opinion about it in terms of 'not liking it' - you have to prove that your ‘dislike’ is based on the fact that there is inequality within the equation. Therefore, voting on policies will be a point of consultation where everyone is able to state whether or not they agree that the policy is indeed aligned to the Principle of what is Best for All. And if one does not agree - the claim must be substantiated with the necessary proof and evidence.

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Comment: "I would rather the vote be left upto the people not having a government spending away our livelyhood"
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Comment: "The way it should be. "
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Comment: "We need to institute sortition, a rotating lottery system not unlike jury duty, that would empower all citizens to participate in decisions, a true citizen legislature, vs. elections."

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Within an Equal Money System, every person will be ensured access to a computer and the internet so that every person will be able to vote on an issue they would like to participate in.

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Comment: "Politicians should be teachers and observers that react to what is not best for all and point it out."

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That which is best for all is physically measurable and based on common sense. Therefore everyone will be able to see for themselves whether something is best for all or not and it will not be required to enlist specialists or other professionals to point out what is best for all

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Comment: "Absolutely agree. No one man or woman with a cabinet or senate behind them should have the absolute say. Democracy should mean just that. We need leadership otherwise there would be a complete breakdown. What we don't need is constant policing, nor do we need to be shown what the rich have and what the poor can't have. Anyone, anywhere, whatever race, creed, religion or belief should have the opportunity to who and what they wish. If we as humans cannot grasp that we are forever changing and evolving instead of going backward and hating each other, we are doomed."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

The idea that we need Leadership to prevent a Complete Breakdown, is just an idea.
If you check the past, Humanity has always had leaders and breakdowns such as revolutions or uprisings. Some extreme leadership made it their business to even contain or suppress the Breakdowns, to what result? A better world?

The opposite is in fact true, external leadership leads to Human disempowerment and the Belief that someone else, out there, must know what is best for All and do it in our name.
To show ourselves that this is in fact absolutely Not True, we got as far as here, where through the strictest highest leadership the World has ever seen, an Imaginary "New World Order", that pushed Humans out of any and all decision that affect the lives of all in favor of a system run for Profit, now we stand in and as the consequences of our unwillingness to be Self Responsible points within a World we Equally share.

Evolution of Humans is another delusion, you just need to check the news to see how in fact we are devolving into a spiral of unprecedented madness and hatred, proportionate to our unwillingness to stand in Self Leadership of and as ourselves and of the World, Equal and One, understanding that a World that is Best for All is in fact best for me too and that We cannot be passive bystanders but are required to become active Participants of the 'Best for All' World we say we want.

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Comment: "There has to be some board etc that has some power. What if the people want to vote in something discrimnatory? Because the majority wants it does NOT make it right!!"

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You are absolutely right that the way majority rule democracy currently functions is in no way best for all, because it is the lowest denominator that sets the standards. We have created a world where anything goes and people abuse and exploit each other, the animals and the earth without end. A point to consider though, is that the Equal Money System is a completely new way of living and a new way of approaching politics, because the starting-point is not the lowest denominator but what is best for all. That means that the democracy in an Equal Money System will not be based on majority rule, as that is a flawed system open for abuse. In the current system, for example the majority is agreeing to destroy the earth and make the animals go extinct. This also means that people are using their 1 vote to agree to living in a way that is destroying their own lives - which simply shows how flawed the majority rule system because the starting point of those who vote is only considering their own desires without any regard for life on earth - including their own. The majority is thus not even making directive decisions but are merely following desires blindly guided by the consumerism system. The 'majority' in this context is not even the majority in fact when considering the totality of lifeforms existing on earth not to mention all the people (half the earth's population) who have no choice within the consumer industry. So the 'majority' is in fact merely the minority of people who have money. In an Equal Money System it is quite simplistic: that which is best for all - goes - that which is not best for all, does not. This do not require someone to have power over others because it is the principle of what is best for all that has the final say. Thus if someone wants something and that has to be decided by all, the determining factor would not be the amount of votes or people, but a practical measurement of whether it is in fact best for all life - including the animals and the earth.

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Comment: " Democracy in an Equal Money System will Practically engage Every Citizen of the World to Vote on "........Every Aspect that will influence Day to Day Living, and No Politician will have Any Power to Make Decisions. Politicians will only Function as Administrators Effecting the Will of the People....." That is REQUIRED, and right on the money. Thank you, I totally agree."
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Comment: "This goal is really unclear to me. If we are talking about a way for all of us to agree on high level choices, and allow people who are engaged in the work and affected by the work (some of them "politicians") to make the more detailed decisions, then I can support it. If you are asking me as a citizen to learn everything there is to know about everything, then I can't support it. When do I get to eat breakfast, play with the kids, and sleep? There is value in participative decision making, and there is also value in delegating to those with expertise and focus."

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Politicians will become mere representatives of the Will of the People, we should see this as a gigantic step in the right direction toward Self Responsibility, so far, due to the inherent nature of Man based on Self Interest, Politics has shown that there is potential for abuse in a few governing the many that has in fact been, consistently, greatly exploited.

You make a valid point in terms of exposing the fear of not being able 'to do it all', and it won't be required either, ‘points of responsibility’ will be undertaken, which will be a form of delegation as not each person will be able to participate in all policies, so we will have both participative decision making, on points for which one has accepted personal responsibility, and delegation to those with other expertize in other fields who have agreed to take on specific points as their responsibility.

Consider that within an EMS there will be much more time for everybody to take care of the activities you are concerned about as most of the work to manage the system will be carried out during the Internship program right after school, which means mostly everybody will be 'retired' before 30 years old -unless they wish to continue working within the system because it is their passion-, having the rest of their Life to enjoy and explore what the Planet has to offer.

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Comment: "Democracy is flawed because 51% control the remaining 49%. "

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Democracy has been flawed because the options to vote for have never been aligned to a best for all outcome, instead they have always existed within the context of earning a position of power to apparently decide for the whole. However as we know, the division within this world between people within for example political parties and governmental factions is mostly linked to a point of preference as characteristics mostly endorsed through ideals and concepts that would resonate to the particular affiliation of individuals, never in fact proposing tangible plans to modify and align the structure of the system itself to a best for all outcome. This is how neither of the generally labeled 'liberal' and 'conservative' lines - and the various variations that might in between as apparent alternatives - have been based within an equal and one consideration of support toward all individuals to dignify their lives to an optimum position. Hence no matter 'who wins,' there is always till this day a a point of disparity and not necessarily from that hypothetical 51% winning, but it has been always here' already from the foundation of the system being inherently designed to not benefit all beings equally. Within this is to understand that, it is rather a fallacy that such 'majority' controls a 'minority' that apparently loses, as what has always Lost is the majority with always having a minority with all the power= money and control of resources. Hence within the process of direct democracy as one man, one vote - any person that stands for an equal and one consideration of life and an equal access to such support, would count as one vote toward the implementation of the Equal Money System. This means that it would be a rather questionable thing to have a majority of individuals opting to vote for any other proposal that would still be based in the maintenance of a polarized society wherein only a minority are being supported.

Common sense here is that all we require to do is first of all align our individual consideration of a life in Equality within ourselves, see where we are willing to stand as part of a system wherein everyone will be equally supported and be functional within that, wherein there will be no more 'opposition' other than any person that would want to essentially 'rule themselves out' and denying/ not agreeing with being equally supported from birth to death, which would then question the mental sanity of the person and for that, we would also provide support to see where and how the flawed desire to maintain an abusive system exists.

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Comment: "i agree with it completely - best for all is necessary"
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Comment: "i agree with it completely - best for all is necessary"
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Comment: "Politicians are of course meant to be merely, servants of the people, not self-serving asses."
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Comment: "Los politicos son el caos del sistema."

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El sistema en sí puede ser alineado a funcionar para establecer el principio de igualdad como política de vida. Los políticos no son el caos, sólo son la representación de lo que nos hemos convertido cuando delegamos nuestra responsabilidad a unos cuantos para ‘gobernar.’ El principio de la democracia aquí implica iguales derechos = igual responsabilidad para todo individuo. De esta manera, no será necesario una élite política, sino la toma de responsabilidad por cada individuo en su vida diaria, que es lo que facilitará proceso de realización de la igualdad como una estructura práctica de administrar y mantener sustentable al sistema. El orden lo haremos todos al considerar nuestra propia responsabilidad dentro de un sistema de igualdad.

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Comment: "I like that, "politicians will only function as administrators effecting the will of the people." the people already know what is good for them. why not do this?"
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Comment: "Alpha males make it to the top but have no understanding of ubuntu"

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Yes, obviously, you are pointing out the main problem within our politics on all levels, because we have in this world restricted ourselves to a hierarchical administration that only serves the few at the top at the cost of the many, while as you say the “alpha males” at the top have neither the understanding nor the interest of What is Best for All.

That is exactly the re-alignment an equal money system will bring forth by putting an end to hierarchy and inequality and allowing ALL PEOPLE equal access, equal participation, equal power and equal rights in this ONE world we all share. That is also the true nature of actual democracy: One man/woman One vote – which ensures that all voices of the people are heard and included within decision making and the implementation of policies.

A point to consider from the perspective of Ubuntu:
"I am what I am because of who we all are." (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy))
This shows that the current world system with all the abuse, inequality and exploitation can only exist and continue to exist through OUR acceptance and allowance. Meaning that, the “alpha males” or those “at the top” are where/what they are because of us ALL. Therefore we cannot sit here blaming ‘them’ and expecting ‘them’ to change without acknowledging OUR responsibility and the fact that WE must change and resume directive principle of ourselves as life, to do what it takes to educate ourselves and each-other into understanding that we manifest what we accept and allow, and therefore we require to Stop our acceptances and allowances, to realize how the current system came to be, and acknowledge that we are all equally responsible. Furthermore to see, realize and understand that responsibility is power, and that however currently those in positions of responsibility only abuse their power for self-interest and the control of profit in a way that results in inequality, exploitation and abuse. This must stop – and an equal money system is a first step towards realizing equal responsibility, equal rights, equal power, equal life for all living beings on earth.

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Comment: "So if I see animals being abused and I want to take action - can a vote be set up for this and then the majority will decide what happens to the people abusing?"

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If it is found that you are abusing and unable to give or unable to take responsibility for that which you are given on an equal footing to all – It will be seen that you require psychological realignment as your actions are indicating that your programming is harmful to others / animals.

The voting within the EMS is based on principles that we will vote on. In relation to individual cases we are looking at the judicial system that will implement the policies that we had voted on. Thus if a person is found (within the judicial system)to be acting in a manner that is harmful to others – they will be sent to a facility where they will be educated and trained so that they do not abuse or harm another being again.

The psychological training facilities will be a major supporting factor within an Equal Money System as it requires a person both the give and take responsibility for that what they are given, for an Equal Money System to work effectively.

The psychological trainers are not psychologists – they are psychological technicians that assist you to understand ‘you’, as all as one as equal, effectively, and thus understand the consequential outflows of one’s own actions and how one’s own actions contribute to the creation of our collective experience on earth.

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Comment: "Yes we have interactive media up and working already, lets do this! "
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Comment: "Who,or what computer programmer mediates all of this?"

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A computer / internet program will function as the platform through which everyone can vote / participate – and within that every citizen will give form to the policy development process. Understand that we are currently only at the initial stage of setting out and explaining what an Equal Money System is, whereby we have our principles and overall framework in place. Specifics such as actual operating software has not yet been established, as we are still busy through discussion and participation giving ‘flesh’ to our framework, and placing everything into writing / published information. The actual development of software/programs that we want to utilise will only come at a later stage, when we actually get closer to the stages of testing / implementation.

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Comment: "I truly agree with this principle"
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Comment: "Self government, Community based organisation and services. "
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Comment: "Egalitariocracy could be another way to define this a point"
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Comment: "A commenter mentioned humanity as a body and that every part should have a right to decide each other part. However this is hugely flawed. Does the foot know how the heart works? Should someone who has absolutely no knowledge of global economics cast a vote on a global economic decision? Something they don't understand? If you'd never been in a boat and have no interest in boats do you have the right to vote on a decision that will effect the whole global boating community? Does someone who has no understanding of quantum mechanics have the right to vote on funding for a research grant into quantum mechanics? We vote for our political parties because the majority of the population are not educated or aware of how the country is run, how our monetary system functions, how our education system works, how are farming sector functions etc. etc. "

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

What you are showing here is THE problem in today’s world system where people are not educated, the information that is presented to the people is deliberately written/presented in a way that the people won’t understand and accordingly, will give their power away to the Politicians, within the Belief that the Politician will do what’s best for people, despite of the fact that they do not because if they would, we were already have a world that is best for all.
 
Within the Equal Money System, all PEOPLE will be educated to the extent of which all decisions will be informed and understood. Within the Current system, lack of educated people serve the Elite, those who stand in power and control positions.

Education will be based upon living principles that ensures all individuals are equally aware of how to act, speak and do what is best for all as Equals. Once this is lived as an integral part of the human, we will no longer require politics to dictate 'how' to conduct ourselves in the world system, as everyone will utilize the ‘what is best for all’ principle to work out what is best for all within the practicality of our physical environment. Thus it is to consider how all that what we will be voting on are options/choices that invariably lead to what's best for all - we will only decide which way is the best one to do so. Understanding how reality works is part of the Education program in the Equal Money System and it's already being placed into action for individuals that decide to do so
 
Within an  Equal Money System, we will create Effective Human Beings through effective education that understand in specificity how everything works and functions in this world. It is only in a controlled environment where LIFE SKILLS are deliberately not taught as well as deliberately presented as if one is not able to understand the entire picture. That is done for one main reason – to keep the Humans enslaved to their Idea of Inferiority and lack of Power and would accordingly, won’t stand in this world, as the directive principle of what is best for all, in all and every decision that will effect human beings.
 

Also, what is important to understand that within the EMS – not everyone will vote on ‘all’ policies as this will be impossible from a practical perspective. Not ALL people will vote on ALL policies as every person will vote on where they have taken a point of responsibility for or have an interest in (Things that will affect their community directly / fields of interest that a person is developing).

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Comment: ""No politician will have any power to make decisions" is the best decision. "
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Comment: "Those without an equal voice are able to be abused, thus this proposed Goal constitutes the perfect solution in ensuring that all have a voice, and thus none can be abused with no ability to cry out what's being done to them. If you look at humanity as one giant human body - I would want all the parts of my body to 'have a voice' so that I can get adequate feedback to know how best to care for my body. If there is a thorn in my foot, I want to know so I can correct it, and the body can function properly as a whole again. Our political system should function this way, in ensuring that there is effective communication and feedback with all parts, in order to facilitate us to function to our utmost capability as a whole. I realize I could easily be one of the ones currently suffering without a voice, born into a situation of abuse, with no ability to do anything about it. No being should go through this. Thus I agree 100% with this goal."
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Comment: "I so agree. Online secure vote on ANY matter. Anybody eligible should be able to safely vote in 2 clicks. Laws and arrangements should never been definitive as “Everything changes, nothing remains without change.” "

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Voting will always be based on the ability to discern ways, means and methods to establish a living reality that is best for all - this means that the principle and objective of each point we will be voting on will remain the same and immovable, which is Equality as Life. What will vary is the ways/methods/ as laws and arrangements established in order to achieve a particular goal, which does not mean or imply that they will be in constant and continuous process of voting/change within the structure and organization of the system in itself - no. In essence: we won't require to be in a constant and continuous process of decision making/ change if we are able to see and realize that a decision made and implemented is functional and effective in a constant and consistent manner throughout time. Observe this physical reality: it remains within the same mechanisms that enables life to continue; thus it is not that life in itself changes, what you perceive as change is actually a movement, which is different. Therefore as we go walking the process of making decisions, what will change is the way we adjust our living conditions, the ways we relate to and interact with each other based on the voted laws, arrangements that will stand within the principle of Life in Equality, which is what will always remain unchangeable, immovable and consistent as it is the very principle embodied within and as the Equal Money System in itself.

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Comment: "Yes yes YES! The government should serve the people, NOT the other way around!"
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Comment: "For this goal the word 'politician' should be eliminated; if they are going to administer, then we can probably call them administrators. Administrators functions should be way different than a politician function."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Hi – in the dictionary we have this: politician 
One who is skilled or experienced in the science or administration of government.
One who seeks personal or partisan gain, often by scheming and maneuvering
 
In today’s world a politician is somebody who manipulates and controls in order to gain power and is based on self-interest. We have come to despise the word politician based on centuries of abuse and thus this definition is ingrained and when you hear the word politician you react negatively. In the equal money system abuse would not be possible because no one person can be more than another. A politician won’t work with the administration of a government as we understand the word today, but work as an administrator who will solely function based on the needs of the people. The requirements and needs of the people always comes first.

So it’s the definition that changes – a politician is someone who functions as a representative of the administration who oversees the requirements of the people to make sure everybody has enough .

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Comment: "But how can one be sure of who is counting the votes and if it is legitement? Who defines the trustworthy people that do such a job? I guess with an equal money system there would be less motivation to do such things but still... I would like it only if the people saw exactly where their vote went, instead of voting and then waiting for the results. But how does the equal money system go about destroying the bounds of all governments in all countries? I feel there would be racism or opression still between countries like there are now, therefore denying a chance of a global democracy. Does the equal money system feel like their will be agreence between countries at war due to religion (not money any more) or anything like that to become one people to vote on world issues?"

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

"But how can one be sure of who is counting the votes and if it is legitement?”
Within the Equal Money System, voting will be done electronically in real-time. These votes will be logged and be immediately publicly available on an open network which everyone can review. The voting will be done through encrypted coding technology which is already available to prevent any abuse. This eliminates the need to trust a third party to check the votes -- and as mentioned before the votes are real time and immediately published, ensuring a transparent voting procedure which anyone can check at any-time, and no waiting will be involved.

“how does the equal money system go about destroying the bounds of all governments in all countries?”

There will be no real “destroying” involved since all governments are all just based on agreements, and thus it is just a matter of re-aligning these agreements according to a new principle, as what is best for all. It will be a process to reach all people across the globe and all countries. A few countries may initially start with implementing an Equal Money System and lead as an example for other countries. And so the process of establishing an Equal Money system everywhere will be dependent on the people of the particular countries to engage themselves and campaign for an Equal Money System until it is a reality in fact. This won’t be a forceful or violent progression but a natural movement, as people become more aware of what is possible and having other countries and people as examples.

“I feel there would be racism or oppression still between countries like there is now, therefore denying a chance of a global democracy”

A Global Equal Money System is not going to manifest itself over night and it will be a process. As a few countries lead the way as examples within practically living and applying the Equal Money System, other countries may still find themselves in situations of conflict. But as the Equal Money System point emerges and stabilizes other countries will see that they do not have to continue living and participating in conflict and that there is another way as the Equal Money System. And so the Equal Money System will start off as only a seed – sprouting, growing bigger and expanding its branches until it is in fact rooted everywhere as we get everyone to agree to live a Life and establish a society which is Best for All Life.

“Does the equal money system feel like their will be agreence between countries at war due to religion (not money any more) or anything like that to become one people to vote on world issues?"

Besides a monetary reformation, there will also be an educational reformation taking place which will render all religions as they exist today obsolete. This again will be a process – and it is suggested that you read the comments under the Freedom goal (http://equalmoney.org/goals/8-freedom) for further perspective on the point of religion, as it has been addressed there several times.

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Comment: "Democrazy is not working and is a detour around everything because when we NEED to vote for something or to make a decision we're already on the wrong track. We should ARRIVE at decisions not making them since that will never be the will of the 100% of the population and there would actually be no need to MAKE any decisions since in a fair society we already know whats best for us and what should and must be done. "

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

The options that one will be able to choose from will already be based on the principle of Equality as Life: What is Best for All. The only point that one will be able to choose from is the preferred method/way to take into action that which will lead to, in one way or another, a certain outcome that will be equally beneficial.

So, the will of the people within the Equal Money System, will be veered toward manifesting the understanding of doing/ implementing and placing into action that which benefits the entire population.

Therefore as you have stated here: once you already consider what’s best for all, the points to vote upon will be a matter of deciding by majority what is the best way to implement, for example, a certain policy. What must be understood is that: none of the choices will be to the detriment of any living being.

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Comment: "NICE WHEN!"

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

We cannot foresee how long the complete implementation of this system will take at this early stage, yet we have to start the Change somewhere, sometime, even if we should not see it implemented during our lifetime, because there are others that will be coming after us, the Children, to whom we shall leave a better world than the One we were born into.

What we can foresee is the required Self Realization of All that we must be the Change, and we have to stand as The Change and The Solution no matter how long it will take, if not within our lifetime, wherever we leave the project when we die the young ones will step in to finish what we have not been able to finish and birth into Life, walking in our footsteps, standing Together Equal and One for What is Best for All.

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Comment: "Liquid democracy can be the first step to make this a reality: http://liqd.net/en/ This idea has a huge potential."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Liquid Democracy as a way to form a Direct Parliamentarism, proposes Adhocracy, a software to set up the voting of policies by small groups and organizations (for now), it is not clear at this stage how they see these policies crossing over into reality once the voting is done, specifically if we talk about Public Policies that would affect the lives of All.

What is not explicitly considered within Liquid Democracy is that we do not yet have the Power to vote and then implement a change, because the system is at the moment held in the hands of the few with Money=Power.
Which is why unless we address the Money Point as The Point of Inequality, nothing we do will be able to make an impact into the Current System, because The System is currently run by Money and it has automated itself to such a degree of Public Compliance that we are no longer even able to see that Democracy is NOT what is in place at the moment, or has ever been, but a Plutocracy that has managed to concentrate Money as Power in the hands of a few that have been able to write and enforce Laws and Policies for Maximum Profitability and NOT for Life and What is Best for All.

To Break Free we need to give Equal Economic Power to All, to establish the Equal Value of Each Life, then Equal Power to vote and implement policies will be possible, using what exists already will be for sure an option to consider, including Adhocracy.

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Comment: "It will never happen ever ever ever why because this gives all power to countries with large populations so basically china would rule the dam world. "

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

The principle one man, one vote is indicating that what's best for all must be decided by all in equality. However this does not mean that one nation will be more empowered than other. Realize that this is about establishing living principles for humanity to stop segregating ourselves according to nations, cultures or religions: it is about voting on that which will enable ourselves to walk as individuals that regard each other as equals. Your current perception of China is based upon the amount of population and 'economical power' they apparently have; however, within the consideration of equal money = no one will be able to rule over another - there will be no possibility to have power over others in Equality and that's the basic principle of Equal Money.

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Comment: "Hierarchy, put a king at its place. See nature see hierachy. Democracy and politics just saying."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Hierarchy within the Human Society is a result of being born within a system of competition for resources, where each one tried to secure the safest and 'highest' position within the system to guarantee their own survival. Nature is not behaving this way, every part in nature plays a function that benefits the whole, unless we have gone and put a hand into an ecosystem without understanding, or caring for, the consequences of our actions. So given the nature of Humans we do not know what and how we have in fact impacted within nature in the past generations and cannot assess the malfunctioning of Nature as 'how things are supposed to be'.

Instead we could take a look at the Human Body for a non hierarchical organized system that seems to function pretty well without our intervention, where all parts share Equally and sustain and support each other. The Physical body seems to naturally understand that whatever fails in the whole will impact the whole, where support is needed it is given, there is no questioning or debating about squandering resources asking for IOUs for the support, or an organ insisting on his 'higher' importance over another, something we are still in the process of understanding and hopefully sooner than later, will just get.

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Comment: "This would change the world for the better in all ways."
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Comment: "This, and the rest of the Equal Money system set up the playing field for a theoretical utopia. All told, it is a democratic communism, planetwide, and people will find a way to cheat. It is built on the principle that people are basically stupid, and that is why this will fail. Even if it does survive for about three generations, then things will start to happen in direct correlation with an old social experiment involving mice, called Universe 25."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

If one would in fact study the equal money system, one would see that it is not presenting a “theoretical utopia” – on the contrary, it investigates the functionality of the current system and the consequences thereof, to then present practical ways for a transformation of the current system into a functionality that ensures equal support for ALL LIFE in all possible ways.

What must be understood is that without the human, the system would not exist. This indicates that each one is equally responsible for What is Here in the world as we know it.
People are not “basically stupid” – they are merely products of the system, ‘educated’ into submission and fear, resulting in self-abdication and an experience of inferiority toward the system: this is how the system ensures control while it uses human beings as slaves to keep the system running.

Here at Desteni we suggest that the human is in fact able to take self-responsibility and stand-up for life, that this however requires a re-education of self in self-honesty, to first of all understand how we have come to accept and allow ourselves to be enslaved within a system of inequality and abuse and how we even participate in such inequality and abuse within ourselves – which indicates not only our responsibility but also the common sense that a solution for the world starts with living the solution within and as ourselves: and that to transform the world we require to transform ‘who we are’ as human beings and how we interact in all our relationships in this world.

Deception exists where inequality exists. Abuse exists where the value of life has been compromised. The equal money system is designed to give the power back to the people, as one man one vote, which implies equal power, equal access, equal rights. This is not communism. Communism may have had some benefits in its societies like education for all, however even communism has been a system of hierarchy and control, using fear to ‘educate’ the citizen into obedience so that the citizen serves the system as if the system were ‘god’. In an equal money system, the goal is to eliminate all hierarchies and stop all fear, as we can see that education based in fear is not supporting the development and expression life. In fact, the current consumerism system uses our fears and desires for its own self-preservation in the name of profit.

We say this must stop. We can no longer allow the abuse of life and the control of our world through powers of inequality in the name of profit. In fact, what must be ‘in control’ is Life itself; which is like saying that if there is a god, it must be Life – meaning that any and all systems that we may establish to support us as humanity must be based on the value of life. And the value of life IS life – hence equality. This is not communism, it is common sense.

Who would not like to have the freedom and the time to walk a life of self-exploration, self-empowerment, self-expression? Who would not like to expand oneself to one’s utmost potential? This is only possible once the basic requirements for a dignified life are guaranteed to ALL from birth to death; once fear is eliminated and no longer serves a purpose in the world; once all life has equal power, equal rights and equal access to life.
We realize that this is in fact the deepest desire of every living being: oneness and equality as life. Therefore we are confident that we can utilize democracy as one man one vote to make the voice of life count. To do that, we require to stand-up as self-willed equals of Life, and walk the practical steps it takes to bring forth a new system of actual life-support.

This is the equal money system – which is but a first step toward self-realization as life. Ultimately, money will not exist nor will it be relevant; but for a moment, since money is the tool of abuse and a tool we as mankind have manifested in agreement whether willingly and deliberately or unwillingly in unawareness: we have to take responsibility for money as our creation and stand accountable for the consequences and problems money creates, and take it upon us to transform money into a tool that will ensure the fair exchange of services and the equal distribution of the resources that our planet earth unconditionally provides for all.
Money is currently the manifestation of our inequality and self-deception. Equal Money is the way to move our existence into equality and self-honesty as life.

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Comment: "TAMBIEN ES JUSTO PROMOVER EL RESPETO HACIA LOS POLITICOS, POR QUE CUANDO HANDAN EN CAMPAÑAS, SE LES ATACA MUCHO Y ENTRE ELLOS MISMOS COMPITEN Y SE ATACAN EL UNO AL OTRO, ASI QUE TAMBIEN TENDRIA QUE CAMBIAR SU PREPARACION PARA SER POLITICOS, LOS QUE YA ESTAN DENTRO DEL SISTEMA HABRIA QUE QUITARLOS Y SE TENDRIAN QUE REEDUCAR QUE CREO QUE ES LO QUE AQUI SE BUSCA."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

En el proceso de Educación, el respeto como el reconocimiento de ser uno e iguales será implícito debido a que todo ataque y competencia que ahora existe como método de supervivencia, será erradicado al no tener ya que 'luchar para vivir/ sobrevivir,' y en su lugar, valores de vida serán establecidos desde los primeros años de la existencia de cada individuo. Esto implica que los políticos del futuro por ahora tenemos que educarnos con base al principio de vida en Igualdad y reconocer que todos tenemos igual responsabilidad sobre el actual estado del mundo - con ello no será posible ya culpar y atacar, sino tomar responsabilidad y ser copartícipe de la solución.

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Comment: "Hell yes! This is completely possible, desired and perhaps even necessary for society to continue without destroying itself."
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Comment: "yes"
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Comment: "I find your effort to bring a better future something very valuable. Certainly i will come back on this site to further comment and share my opinions. I'd like to start with a topic I don't' agree. Laws are the first pillar of freedom. Having a piece of paper to point at when someone is trying to deny your rights is often the only way to see them being respected -as far as, in your country, judges do their job- . The problem is laws often get messy, especially after decades, if not centuries, of law-making. In a parliamentary state, laws reflect the parliament's and governments past choices. Choices witch require years of studies, career, and specialization. Choices witch could make or bake the society and the economy. Leaving these Choices in the hands of ANYONE, as long as ANYONE isn't a well instructed, well aware and bone-honest citizen could bring to ANYTHING. Such a full democracy would also probably bring to strong polarizations between people, in case they still think like monkeys. It's a hard truth, but you can't give a bunch of monkeys a Democracy and tell them ; "Now it's your turn". I think this system could be easily exploited by the first crazy, extremist as***le who picks up the masses' attention. As long as people keeps living in ignorance, the state must control the citizen at some level. The state should work towards instructing its population as well, in the hope its forced control will someday not be useful anymore. Only then a true democracy will be possible."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

In relation to the educational level that the world functions within at the current moment – bringing about direct democracy will be disastrous as there is no equality among human beings and human beings have inherited self-interested programming. Our goal within the EMS is long term, which is coupled with education; bringing about equality, dignity, respect and trust among human beings. When we live in a world of equality, direct democracy ensures that all individuals are applying themselves for what is best for all as your pears are able to see who you are within the decisions that you make, what you stand for and how you direct yourself. In relation to the laws that you are referring to: Look at the history of how countries develop and exist; the more laws a country has, the more crime a country has. Within the EMS there will be a minimal amount of laws which will focus on the premise of what is best for all.

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Comment: "BEST ONE EVER TO BAD FROM THE FEW VOTES IT SHOULD BE LIKE hmm I DONT KNOW 5 BILLION ???? !!!"
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Comment: "Media influences people on complex subjects making them vote for something they don't understand but think they do eg War on terror and WMDs etc."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Indeed, in the current world system media is utilized for perception manipulation and the forming of opinion, because without brainwashing who would go to war? The current system of profit manipulates people through their fears and desires, in fact it essentially creates people’s fears and desires. Media within this is the advocate of evil and the tool through which public opinion and perception is formed. The documentary “Psywar” gives good examples of how such brainwashing is done to exploit life for profit and power.

In an Equal Money System, media will be based on the value of life and aligned to produce and support conditions that will be best for all life.  media will serve exactly this principle. Media will be about documenting and reporting the actuality of reality and will be based on equal access, transparency and open participation. Within this anyone can report and share news, that support the principle of educating and transferring of information that is effective for understanding and use, which will bring everyone closer together on a global level, equalizing knowledge and information for all.

News will move mainly through the internet, and since profit is out of the equation the purpose and application of media will transform into what it is supposed to be: a medium of transparent communication that enables the authentic documentation of history as well as educating of what is currently available and  accessible within the world. Voting in an Equal Money System will be based on the principle of one man one vote and all will be able to vote on all decisions that affect our living conditions and planet resources as our common good. We will no longer be voting for individual leaders or parties, but for practical decisions, implementations, solutions, and all matters at hand.

News and events will be able to be cross-referenced by local participants all over the world. This way we can make sure that history is written as is, so that we may really start learning from history and use it to evolve and enhance life in oneness and equality for all – instead of media being monopolized like in the current system and used for the manipulation of perception and belief to create separation, hatred, fears, desires, feelings of revenge or self-righteousness – all manifestations of self-interest.

Since an Equal Money System is based on the value of life and aligned to produce and support conditions that will be best for all life, media will serve exactly this principle. Within an Equal Money System, we can even go further and transform media into a global platform of communication where we can exchange authentic reality reports and share all information as open knowledge, thus in fact creating educational exchange platforms at all possible levels. Media within this becomes a means toward actual evolution, self-willed through all participants in oneness and equality.

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Comment: "Agreeed"
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Comment: "To have a true democracy, the politician/administrator will have to be chosen at random from a list of volunteers. We cannot have a system in which the person who has the most influence gets put in charge, it will just recreate a system of inequality. "
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Comment: "this is a goal that would require alot of discussion because it is hard for groups of people to agree on almost anything; thus nothing may not get done!"

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Yes, we agree. Join us on the Forum and share your input

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Comment: "democracy is the dictatorship of the majority which means that we need an educated fearless strong people to share the rights that they want, not the rights that they always hear and sounds pretty "
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Comment: "I think most of people are not prepared in making decisions. They are appart of gobal conditions and seems to dislike responsibilities in all aspects. Maybe the educational reform could be the first action to be taken. "

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

The decision making will be part of the education process, where the decision making and educational transformation are interconnected with one another. One will be provided with the educational background and make decisions as way of practically applying what one has learnt.

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Comment: "Ben Franklin said, that democracy was two wolves and a lamb discussing what is for lunch. Democracy is basically mob rule, and if you can control the media, then you can easily control the mob. Not good."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Yes Ben Franklin had a point in seeing that Democracy as what we have had so far was just a decoy to protect the existing Egalitarian system of Money. But he was also only part of a representative democracy where the mob is able to be controlled by media. In the EMS we propose a direct democracy where every person is seen as an equal able directly participate in politics. This is obviously only possible if all individuals are equal in education and understanding which is why education forms the back bone of the Equal Money System.

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Comment: "True Power to the People!It will also make everibody aware of environment and importance of decisions that they make! DraganStranjina"
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Comment: "i have been thinking in this way for a long time. "
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Comment: "stop the party system and go for a system where people can vote for the best solutions or proposals in all the different sectors. The party system stands in the way of sustainable solutions. "
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Comment: "i agree with this goal. many say democracy does not work and i can see where that statement would be made. but what is not taken into consideration with that statement is the starting point behind action currently. if the starting point is profit, greed and self interest then everything coming forth from it will be shit. an idea of democracy or even an idea of love or help or care. the equal money system addresses the starting point of actions. so we can begin to create harmony and collective direction from the start. "
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Comment: "Only wih If this could be achieved in our lifetime's.."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

We cannot foresee how long the complete implementation of this system will take at this early stage, yet we have to start the Change somewhere, sometime, even if we should not see it implemented during our lifetime, because there are others that will be coming after us, the Children, to whom we shall leave a better world than the One we were born into.

What we can foresee is the required Self Realization of All that we must be the Change, and we have to stand as The Change and The Solution no matter how long it will take, if not within our lifetime, wherever we leave the project when we die the young ones will step in to finish what we have not been able to finish and birth into Life, walking in our footsteps, standing Together Equal and One for What is Best for All.

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Comment: "Democracy does not work. "
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Comment: ""The point of one man one vote is also a point of re-education and responsibility. Everyone takes part in the decision making and within that no-one can blame the “politicians” for making bad decisions/policies. If you know and are aware of how the world works, you can make a responsible and educated decision." The dictatorship of a majority is just as bad as any other dictatorship, and under this system people won't be free to make many decisions people are allowed to act on today, that would even give them a chance to advance the merit of their stance. So, instead the majority will decide for even those who voted against the majority, why then is the majority not perfectly liable for the blame people attach to politicians today. Only in the current system you can do more to change the world than just vote. In the system you lay out, all powers will be taken from people who must just simply just put up with a minority vote that has no influence... did someone even say you are not even allowed to canvass and inform others of your interpretation of events? You say there will be 'objective' reviews of policy and how to implement it- but there is no such thing as objective;- correlation between elements being governed by policy only has subjective weight, and people value different considerations in more esteem. You might remove career politicians, but ban the publicity of the intellect and you will create a world akin to North Korea... There is no true democracy without a public square or open discourse. With only one [set] of authorized source[s] of information on which to base your vote, when all the sources come to the same conclusion, why would you even bother putting it to a vote? In any case this system is dangerous and easily manipulated. Media (the conduit of communication) is very important, and it seems this system is taking all the wrong stances- banning all biased media is just as dangerous, if not more so than only allowing a single bias. bias is like language, it is a kind of order, it's full of value and meaning, just because we've been swamped in a system that favors the promulgation of bad values doesn't mean its wrong to communicate values. You could say language is terrible because its imperfect and it constrains people who use it? Would you say the answer is to stop using language? Would that allow us to achieve ultimate freedom then? Please think through this analogy, I believe it holds..."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

You have associated the Equal Money system to a Majoritarianism regime which marginalizes the minority.
The Equal Money system is based upon the principle of what is best for all with the removal of a profit driven system.
As most politics is focused on the distribution of resources and placing the Elite families in positions of a greater supply of resources we will only perpetuate the cycle of 'war' for resources by allowing the current system to remain. What you are implying within your question is that 'not everyone will agree', and this is so within a self interest driven world as well as within an uneducated world.
The Equal Money System is driven to remove self interest in educating every person to look at what is best for all thus also eliminating the abuse that goes hand in hand with uneducated masses.

We suggest watching the documentary “The Trap” for better understanding of the extensive brainwash, manipulation and control that we’ve all agreed upon, knowingly or unknowingly.
You are trying to Debunk the Equal Money System from the starting point of your experience within this Current money system that is based on Control However, your lack of understanding of the Equal Money System confine you from Looking at the basic common sense principle – Establishing a World that is Best for All. We suggest going through the Equal Money System Wiki pages and joining us for discussions on the Equal Money Forum.

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Comment: "Democracy is an illusion. It might exist for à short time and then Will be corrupted. Didn't you read THE standaard word on this: Animal Farm? It's à fine exempel of what Will happen.... Recommended strongly."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Democracy as it has been existing up to now has never been ‘actual’ democracy. Either it worked through representatives where people have a limited choice of who can represent them and the extent that these politicians actually represent them – or where a free market simulation is used where “what people want” can be derived from their behavior in the economy. This has the implication that you only have a voice if you have money – and the more money you have, the more “votes” you hold. Since voting power was never in fact equal but disproportionally spread over the population, there was a door for corruption. Additionally, the reason why it only exists and becomes corrupted after a short time is due to inherent self interest. In a world that is profit driven we see ‘good men’ fall to corruption. Power and money are two addictions that the human finds difficult to content with. Within the Equal Money System we remove two primordial inherent traits that lead to corruption, as this System is a supportive system to allow the human to look at its creation again. This system alone however will not root out the inherent corruption of man – For this additional self education is required to lead us into a world where our children will see this education and system as a norm.
 
Within an Equal Money System there will be actual equality where all people have a vote. The ‘One Man, One Vote’ system will allow for everyone to represent themselves for real, for the first time – which is actual democracy.
 
Since up to this date, equality has never existed – you cannot compare the outflows of policies to how policies will work in an Equal Money System. Because the very foundation of any economic system throughout history has in its very essence always been unequal – any attempt to “do good” has resulted in problematic consequences which only further perpetuated the problem – since the actual root, the actual cause has never been challenged or attempted to be changed: the inherent existence of inequality within the world (as a result of our inherent self-interested nature).
 
I suggest to read up on how politics will work within an Equal Money System so you can gain a better understanding of the framework within which we propose the goals listed on the website: http://equalmoney.org/wiki/Politics

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Comment: "Keep the power structure horizontal, a true social anarchistic democracy. "
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Comment: "All sooooo naïef ... THE most important issue is that only few people have access to voting rights in Some countries. In some other countries people actually have voting rights, but just do not want responsabily by using their rights. And then there are people who donor want these rights at all. For various reasons. So, its quite arrogant from your organisation to make a statement like this. As If it is a fact. I feel to have arqued that this is a misunderstnading or at least a mis- statement. "

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

What we write here is not is ‘’set in stone’’ or the final say. It is suggestions. That’s why we have the voting system in place and those who disagree can give their input and then we work from there.

In the current system there are people who don’t have voting rights. In this current system we have different countries with different regulations based on years of human beliefs and ideas as well as the economy. Where as in the Equal Money system there will be ONE system. Everybody will have voting rights and access to facilities to vote. With a democratic system the majority vote gets the final say – and those who don’t want to vote simply does not vote.

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Comment: "I like this... HOWEVER; this is a MAJOR stress on education... We need NO IGNORANCE. "
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Comment: "altough we have to make sure that noone influences noone other's vote, therefore the "pack-leading-wolf" syndrome is not interferring with the decisions made. therefore we have to make sure noone can direct or change other beings in order to have a certain outcome. both on individual level and globally."
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Comment: "would there be no leader then? also, what does it mean to be "administrators effecting the will of the ppl"?"

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

This is real Democracy in practical application which will be finally possible in the Equal Money System as the drive for profit will be removed within the political spectrum - the administrators of the system. Therefore no lobbying from various parties and interests would take place as there would be no incentive possible to be gained by the administrators as it is now where instead of making decisions that are best for all and administering the system effectively politicians instead have to listen to lobbyists and influence which in turn supports them financially as without such monetary support the politicians would not be able to exist in the Capitalistic system.

The administrator in the Equal Money System would therefore be a person that will stand in a position of leadership and management, making sure the distribution of resources is effective and allocating resources where necessary to fix problems that would arise, like natural disasters. Because what’s “the will of the people”? We the people simply want to have those that take care of the bigger picture to do their job, managing things effectively with responsibility and equity, just like we're able to do in our daily jobs, managing our responsibilities effectively and with care.

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Comment: "This is awesome, a voting system like this will allow all the people to get to a point that is best for all and that actually works, and this takes out the problem that is faced currently with people only blaming the governments and creating revolutions, it is all about self repsonsibility now and no blame."
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Comment: "its an impossibility for everyone to vote thus those in power only have to sway those who's views are extreme on the topic to support them and their wills are pushed on the rest of us. "

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

Yes currently not everyone can vote, this is how it is within the current money system. Thus Within an equal money system everyone will be equipped with the specific required tools to vote (There will be process of implementing this), as this will be possible within a whole new system (As our focus is transferred from profit to human excellence), thus everyone will be able to place their votes and suggestions on all political movements/changes where those individuals have an interest in or where the policies affects them directly affects etc.

As people will be educated on how voting and politics work within an Equal Money System they will have a clear understanding of what is implied within voting or not voting. When you are born into a system where each individual is taught to participate in taking self responsibility for their environment and their world – taking part in politics will not be strange – it will be the norm. Within the current system most people are not interested in politics as it is being portrayed as something for only intelligent people and the indoctrination that it is difficult and complicated is so complete that ordinary people whose lives are affected do not even question their leaders while it isn’t.

This will be where the “elite” gets their power from – Un-educated people, thus we are going to have to re-educate the human within common sense and what is best for all life and how decision making works so that they can see within a democratic system their vote counts and will make the difference, plus everyone within the equal money system will be equipped equally with the necessary tools to vote and participate in the decision making as a whole on what is best for all life.

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Comment: "this is the way IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN all along! our forefathers did not intend for the DISGRACE we have for a system now!"
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Comment: "there must be no politicians, they must be banned forever! they are the scum of the earth, only looking after themselfes!"

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there is no one to blame but ourselves as we are the one who accepted and allowed the political system to exists in its current structure and we have made the politician as who they are through giving up our own power. And secondly, the politicians are a direct reflection of what we are accepting and allowing ourselves – to move and direct ourselves according to self-interest as ‘the Trap’ clearly showed.

In the equal money system To be a politician would to be, a caretaker so to speak. With a system of equality there is no point or need to manipulate and deceive people – nobody can be more than another in a system of equality.

Politicians will only Function as Administrators Effecting the Will of the People – meaning that instead of being based on self-interest it will be based on the interest of everybody. The exact opposite meaning of what a politician is today

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Comment: "This is just plain stupid. You want to personally decide what percentage of GDP of e.g. Romania should be used to support the production of milk in southern regions of the country? Do you even know where Romania is? OMG folks, get a life."

Brand_logo Equal Money Team Response:

The point of one man one vote is also a point of re-education and responsibility. Everyone takes part in the decision making and within that no-one can blame the “politicians” for making bad decisions/policies. If you know and are aware of how the world works, you can make a responsible and educated decision.

Obviously food production would be one of those points to be taken into consideration as it will affect people’s lives – so it’s not a matter of taking points for granted and ridiculing them but acknowledging the impacts they have on actual people’s lives. If one does not want to take part in such decision making and re-education it merely indicates that one is not willing to consider other people their lives, and in essence just want to do what they want and what suits them.

Within that, you are also stating that you don’t mind other people making decisions which may impact your life, regardless of the consequences. Additionally, consider that the decision making / voting will not be that hard per se – as extensive research will be done and published to investigate in each instance what would be the best point of implementation for all. You won’t be “personally” deciding on anything – the point of implementation will always be coming from the group whole – where the individual is providing input and feedback.

Currently we are allowing “ignorance” as an excuse as to why we should not participate within important decision making points, and then later we complain when we don’t get outcomes and policies which suit our needs. This problem will thus be eliminated within an Equal Money System.

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Comment: "It will lead to New World order. But it will happen anyway. It's a prophecy."
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Comment: "cool - no more abdicating responsibility and then placing blame on politicians - in an Equal Money System we will all be self-responsible for every decision !"
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Comment: "Awesome!"

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